}, New Idea Parts Books Harvesting * Uni Harvester Attachments UNI-SYSTEM (DIRECT CUT ATTACHMENT FOR FORAGE HARVESTER) 316 - 12 ROLL MOUNTED HUSKING UNIT 761 UNI-SYSTEM PICKUP ATTACHMENT FOR FORAGE HARVESTER 322 - 12 ROLL MOUNTED HUSKING UNIT 762 UNI-SYSTEM ROW CROP ATTACHMENT FOR FORAGE HARVESTER 327 HUSKING UNIT (FOR 324 / 325 UNITS) - Unfinished and unpainted Kit. It wasn't the machine's fault though, he would forget to release the parking brake and the trash on the brake housing would catch fire and drop into the stalks. "dateModified": "2020-12-24", I liked the 709 I had other than the variable speed drive belt. Then a 702 with a 2 row chopper and he also had a cage sheller with a auger out the back of the hopper and we pulled gravity wagons and filled them. Parts are getting hard to find, and it is complicated to work on (8 gearboxes on a two row head might be a record). It wasn't the machine's fault though, he would forget to release the parking brake and the trash on the brake housing would catch fire and drop into the stalks. the combine/harvester forum on yesterday's tractors has discussed uni's now and then. New Idea bought the Uni system from MM about 1965. Her grandparents lived on the farm until moving to town in the 1980s and her aunt and uncle moved out to the farm to raise their family; they still live there today. I see a few still in use. In 1974, New Idea began selling re-branded lawn and garden tractors manufactured by General Electric. Click the Photo or Price of the Items Listed Below for Details: (13 Results) UNI Power Unit. I did like the bin extender when conditions allowed us to pull a wagon. All working order. Stock #: N7342. GM 6-292, V6-401 gas, V6-478 diesel, Perkins AT6-354diesel, AC 3500 426 diesel, Cummins 5.9 turbodiesel were more common. Next model I do not remember the model number. As all have already said, they are not the best for traction when the wagon starts to fill up. I am hoping it will keep better weight on the rear and allow for better steering. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. The 401 V6 GM engine has been very reliable but terribly inefficient. Our AI tool automatically assigns a score from 0 to 10 based on the collected data. He worked the devil out of them on close to a thousand acres of his own plus he custom picked seed corn. Kinda like having a mounted picker on a tractor to mount and dismount. 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Details Model: 800C Est Hours: 3230 Horse Power: Standard Weights: Yes Rear: YES Drive Type: 2WD Fuel Type: Diesel Auto Header Height: Yes Drive Tire Size: 18.4 X 34 Steering Tire Size: 13.5 X 16.1 Rear Axle: Standard Cab Condition: Good Paint Condition: Good Overall Condition: Good Notes 157 HORSE POWER HYDRO DRIVE RWA ON REAR AXLE New Idea 800C Hours: 1073. "@type": "InteractionCounter", Polarized 3D glasses allow for color 3D, while the red-blue lenses produce an image with distorted coloration. I currently have 2 708 uni's with 354 Perkins. I'm thinkin about putting it on ebay. He ran it doing custom work for a couple years, said the right wheel was WAY to light. The entire thing appears to be in good shape exept that is sunk into the dirt. Made in the USA. 3D printed plastic. Top Available Cities with Inventory. Actually a bad Idea. They also started to produce stripper plate corn heads. I doubt they are worth much more than scrap to anyone other than the guys that use them. I think it had a Ford diesel. Far as switching tools, dad had three boys to help so that didn't take long to remove the chopper and put on the combine or cage sheller. All in all it was a idea that had merit but there were issues with design and dealer network. New Idea 725 Uni-System. Posted September 27 . 2023 DTN, all rights reserved. He said he got to use several Uni-Systems in the 1960's and '70s. They suffered from being a good average machine. Ran your butt off keeping up picking. Please correct the following errors and try again: We've detected that you are using an unsupported browser. I do some picking with some NI pull-type pickers too. We used to pick a fair amount of popcorn for a local company, and the uni husking bed did a great job of cleaning up the popcorn. For the best experience on our site, be sure to turn on Javascript in your browser. A farmer near us has one with combine attachment and 6 row head. Some of the attachments available for the 800C series power units included the: New Idea 819 Uni Combine New Idea 839 Uni Husker New Idea 868 Uni Forage Harvester I have an 802 with a 3 row snapperhead and chopper, also a hay head. Dad's first was a 701 he used with both a combine and a chopper with both hay and corn heads. Too big for a small farm. Combine unit was slow to get much done also. That was a very nice show, and a awesome parade, of tractor i never knew MM ever made! Grow your production, efficiencies, and profitability. Took about 2 hours, and a concrete floor helped alot. Run a 705, 708, 709, and was around the later 800's with the Cummins some. For a more comprehensive list of mobile phone operators, see Mobile country codes. I had it 2 years. The one I bought is a variable speed belt drive 706 with a diesel Perkins. I would like to know what he thought of the machine. i talked to a gentleman that knew about them,with a sheller attachment on a hill it was overloaded pulling the wagon and all, that little Z engine, in a V configuration,just couldn't hack it. Copyright 2022 Bossen Implement. Just one hay baler. The coop here used to be a NI dealer, and they ran one of those blowers until maybe 10 years ago. I did buy a two wheel side dump cart to try out next year. See pics and video! There was a 12' flail attachment for the chopper also. COMBINING OATS WITH THE UNI COMBINE IN HILLSBORO WEST VIRGINIA AUGUST 2011. Call Mark with questions 319 231 0246. can tell more later. it sure liked the gas unreal consumption! There were a few around here, but most only used them for one purpose, and didnt bother with other attachments. Never was around a sheller, and never used a snowblower on a uni, but did and do have a NI blower so I assume that would work well too. Call us at
He ran it doing custom work for a couple years, said the right wheel was WAY to light. One site said there were. "name": "Yesterday's Tractor Co.", Reiners notes there are several companies still interested in making implements for Uni power units, although New Idea no longer makes it. Categories . what was the story on the new idea uni systems ? And NI just didnt have the sales and budget to keep up on the finer details as machinery got bigger and more self adjusting, refined headers, etc. The MF dealer I worked for sold several, and I helped drive new ones from Coldwater Ohio to Claypool Indiana in the 70s. The first New Idea Uni right after the MM line had a flathead Continental F244 six, had one come in to the dealer for service once years ago. I still have 2 in truckskind of wish I could find a set of .30 over pistons for a 478I might rebuild it. Just one hay baler. Cost about the same as a 4296 MM combine and 4 row corn head. jm2cw jt I have an 802 with a 3 row snapperhead and chopper, also a hay head. The pwoer unit and chopper are still indie with chopper on unit. Second one had a v 6 gas. It was a good setup for us in central MN dairy country. Cost about the same as a 4296 MM combine and 4 row corn head. Actually a bad Idea. But the mule had very little weight on it, and the right side with no engine weight had zero traction.. they had to stack dozens of weights on top and bolt on the wheel on that side to make a real snow machine out of it. Please use the navigational links to explore our website. 1 with rear wheel assist. I could be wrong but that machine didn't seem that old. Add in the needed 4wd and stronger framing and they got pretty expensive. | Mea Too different, really. I remember one of my friends was over when we were probably 16. Then a 702 with a 2 row chopper and he also had a cage sheller with a auger out the back of the hopper and we pulled gravity wagons and filled them. You might want to check the corn picker forum. We had a 702 with the creamin gimmy in it. If i can help with anything is all i want to do . "image": { Boss "said" it helps break them in, but I "think" he didn't feel comfortable hauling them on his trailer. They did reimburse for all parts replaced but-- 701,702, and 707 Perkins turbo all did a good job. The replacement engine is the same model as the orginal and only has a few hrs on it. NEW IDEA 10 Other Harvesters Price: USD $950 Get Financing* Machine Location: Wheeler, Illinois 62479 Condition: Used Stock Number: 2789 Compare Spiker Farms Wheeler, Illinois 62479 Phone: (217) 448-2005 visit our website Contact Us NI #10 Picker You are welcome to come, look at any item or pick up a purchase. View Details. Our neighbor had one and I think that is the only time I was around a Uni-Harvest. Always wondered how hard it was when you wanted to pick corn in morning and then beans in afternoon ? markloff. I sell new Case/IH Tractors and Equipment .one part at a time and now retired ! "We've been building big grain conveyors for 20 years," says Lindquist. Weve been building big. And an older 709 with a 9 ft. 75 and 95 bu tanks too small. New Idea Uni Jump to page : 1 Now viewing page 1 [50 messages per page] View previous thread:: View next thread Forums List-> Machinery Talk: Message format . Also had a picker with a 2 row head. Still have it and would like to see it go away. The House and Senate floors were both active with debate of weighty measures like Governor Kemp's "Safe Schools Act" ( HB 147) and legislation amending Georgia's certificate of need law ( SB 99) to . Got an old New Idea Uni-System. "width": 200, They had a Minneapolis Moline at a show in Lennox South Dakota, it was a working Uni system,they showed how they hooked it up and unhooked from different attachment that part of it was good, for it's day in my opinion! New Idea Parts. Free delivery for many products! Faith,Family, Friends, Farming & Farmalls. junho 16, 2022. nasa internship summer 2022 . }, . ", My MF boss wanted dad to buy a MF 410 combine, dad said no, the Uni was much better for his farm use. Good luck! While he was picking seed corn the boys were chopping corn silage with another UNI. I think it had a Ford diesel. }, It did an excellent job but it could only handle a three row 30 head so it took awhile to get any amount of acres done. It lacked traction on my hills, right tire had weights, needed more. It is ASSUMED that he was given 39 because it was customary to give 40 lashes minus one (or 39). Add in the needed 4wd and stronger framing and they got pretty expensive. Runs and operates fine. Is there anything that these. That kind of hard work made a man out of you though. But another website said the New Idea Uni-Systems became the White New Idea Uni-Systems and production continued into the 1990s. It would out cut a 403 IHC. His name escapes me right now. All rights reserved. had a ear corn picker. Also had a combine for it also a 717? Parts are getting hard to find, and it is complicated to work on (8 gearboxes on a two row head might be a record). "@id": "https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/" Also have 1968 701 mule with beefed up steer axle and 737 husking bed. -- Edited by Tony Hoffman on Tuesday 18th of . I had driven a Uni 15 years ago picking seed corn for Kaltenburg seeds. When you combine corn and soybeans only, you dont want average, you want great at those 2 things you dont want average. }, Last one I was around had a 401 V6 GMC. How many folks on here complain about changing 3pt implements and the hassle of it? We had a 702 w/ combine, chopper, and huskor in the 80s. It featured a 220 hp (160 kW) engine. Compared to traction of a small Ford tractor. But even that has been several years ago. My dad had a MM mule. Except maybe picking ear corn, but then the widespread picking of ear corn went by the wayside. One of their Unis burned up but that was not uncommon. But combine was off centered. More research yielded even more attachments for the Uni systems. And grain tank to small. No Laughing! It would really twist a combine. The first mule had the 292 straight 6 chev engine. They were well known for the Uni-System (Uni-Harvester), which they had originally acquired from Minneapolis-Moline. Don't think he's had it out last couple of years though. GM 6-292, V6-401 gas, V6-478 diesel, Perkins AT6-354diesel, AC 3500 426 diesel, Cummins 5.9 turbodiesel were more common. All in all it was a idea that had merit but there were issues with design and dealer network. Used to be a guy here in Ohio I believe that dealt in them and did well for several years. To the OP we had a combine on a 707 I think. had a ear corn picker. I agree with TP, it would hold its own value as a backup for you. And also a 12 roll super picker with a 4 row head. it helped that the unis were made in Coldwater, Oh., only about 30 miles south of me. I think the main reason they are not built today is because the farms that could use a machine of this capacity, couldnt justify the cost of owning the Uni. . "@id":"https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/cgi-bin/viewit.cgi?bd=ttalk&th=2213568", DRESSER Heavy Equipment Specifications and Brochures Show: 5 10 15 20 25 30 50 100 All Sort By: Product Name (A - Z) Product Name (Z - A) Product Model (A - Z) Product Model (Z - A). The first New Idea Uni right after the MM line had a flathead Continental F244 six, had one come in to the dealer for service once years ago. And NI just didnt have the sales and budget to keep up on the finer details as machinery got bigger and more self adjusting, refined headers, etc. Made it easy to chase parts as stocking dealers were in 3 different directions and most were 30 miles out. My father in law had several Unis. If you google corn picker forum it will take you to that site. They did pick corn tons better than a mounted picker, and way faster than a pull type. Actually a bad Idea. The implements had jacks that were used to support the implements to change them. They were used for sweet corn into the 90s or maybe 2000s around here in a big way. Plastic Mahindra Scorpio Diesel Filters 595/ Piece. No husking bed on the Byron. 6. "@type": "WebPage", I had it 2 years. . It would almost pay you to keep it for a backup machine honestly. You could make different series mules and attachments work but needed a adapter kit for most mix matching. All other trademarks are the properties of their respective owners. But there was no corn to pick, it was held during wheat harvest, but the thing that did impress me was that Self Propelled Combine with the round grain tank,and that Continetal engine, not sure of the number, but that was as smooth as any combine i ever heard cut wheat,no sickle knock what so ever! My father in law had several Unis. but i know they dont make them any more,did farming change that much, or was it not practial to change the harvesting unit back from one to another?thanks for your help! Doesnt matter how good the machine is, if you cant get into the field with it. My dad started with a 706 in the early 80's shortly after bought a new 708 with a 767 super chopper. I have one i loaned money for a long time friend to buy,, he failed to return a penny of money so i had to repo it,, makes me angry ever time I drive by it and think of it,, it has a turbo'ed Perkins, hydro and RWA supposed to be a fresh ear corn bed on it,, I have one i loaned money for a long time friend to buy,, he failed to return a penny of money so i had to repo it,, makes me angry ever time I drive by it and think of it,, it has a turbo'ed Perkins, hydro and RWA supposed to be a fresh ear corn bed on it,, Dad had a Minneapolis moline unit, ear corn and soybeans. The test guys would make recommendations for improvements when they were done testing, and most of the time the engineering dept would not always listen to their ideas. 707 New Idea Unisystem. Here's my Question? Capacity wasn`t the greatest and limited sales. What would he have changed if he was the engineer building them? He picked some ear corn for me with a six row head and it really kept me hopping pulling and unloading wagons. Dad started putting a red wing boot to the side shields and calling it every terrible combination of words that would make a boat full of sailors uncomfortable. . Cost about the same as a 4296 MM combine and 4 row corn head. Took a lot of maintenance and we eventually did only chopping as we got more cows and hired combining. although it would make a good hobby project but that where it stopped. Cost about the same as a 4296 MM combine and 4 row corn head. Uni System Parts. The newer 727 chopper had good capacity with the GMC gas engine and didn't use much more fuel than the later diesels. Our township bought a new Uni Traction unit with the sno blower & used it for maybe 15 to 20 years, it had the V-6 GM engine, believe it was under powered & slow. Too small for a big farm. Most were combines, and Corn shelters. Looks like a good idea. A couple friends worked at New Idea in field testing and experimental. Contact Midwest Auction Pros with any questions or to view this item. Skip to the beginning of the images gallery. We don't use any other attachments with it- it is used solely for picking ear corn. It belonged to the local seed corn co. and caught on fire at the back of the home 80 and was parked in the grass waterway for a while. The six row head was a Deere that picked a little dirty so the husking bed was overloaded somewhat. "logo": { A neighbor had one back in the seventies that had a habit of setting the corn field on fire. When you combine corn and soybeans only, you dont want average, you want great at those 2 things you dont want average. It did an excellent job but it could only handle a three row 30 head so it took awhile to get any amount of acres done. You could make different series mules and attachments work but needed a adapter kit for most mix matching. I did like the bin extender when conditions allowed us to pull a wagon. Unis have been depreciated to nothing, but that doesn't exactly represent their true value as a piece of equipment. Did have a neighbor who set one up on a V6 mule. All rights reserved. 1 NEW IDEA Equipment in Bethel, PA. 1 NEW IDEA Equipment in Edon, OH. One site said there were snowblower, combine, sheller, husking beds, "superchopper" (whatever that was) and header attachments. Finally into the 2nd season and many calls to dealer and NI the took into the dealer and found two pulleys out of round. That was a very nice show, and a awesome parade, of tractor i never knew MM ever made! I was going to start a new topic on " Uni-Systems" and this was already here! Had a good machine shed and got used to changing attachments. The coop here used to be a NI dealer, and they ran one of those blowers until maybe 10 years ago. NEW IDEA 717 Combines Harvesters Price:USD $2,495 Get Financing* Machine Location:Rockford, Illinois 61102 Serial Number:OREGONIL Condition:Used Stock Number:7326054-4 Crop Type:Grain Separator Type:Walker Terrain Type:Conventional Compare Meridian Implement Rockford, Illinois 61102 Phone:(815) 687-7051 visit our website View Details although it would make a good hobby project but that where it stopped. Those Byrons on a Uni mule were a dream come true. I sold the combine and grain head that came with it. He currently has three Uni power units on hand: an 803C; an 802 with a husking bed picker on it; and an older 709 with a 9 ft. snow blower. There is also a MM brown 4 wheeler mule with husking bed and 2 row head on it in the barn. "interactionType": "https://schema.org/CommentAction", It was a good setup for us in central MN dairy country. It is still in really decent shape, has a two row 38" corn head and a 4 row bean head with a floating sickle, always been shedded and good rubber. Most of the same attachments were available and a corn head could be put on the combine to shell corn. We got real good at switching the combine and the husking bed. Liked by Nuzha Anam. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. There was a 12' flail attachment for the chopper also. I have chopped haylage and high moisture corn with it. There was a toolbar available too, only one I ever saw was a neighbor had an eight row planter setup on his 702. Still have it and would like to see it go away. Please email or contact Gina at 319 231 7213 at auction end . It lacked traction on my hills, right tire had weights, needed more. Some dealers tried running a 6 inch auger back to a trailing wagon. New Idea Uni System - YouTube. Dad had 2 MM uni systems and I owned 2 New Idea Uni systems. The machine itself never caught fire though. It came from a farmer within 5 miles of where it was made. Antique Spreader Parts. Parts are getting hard to find, and it is complicated to work on (8 gearboxes on a two row head might be a record). It's a good idea to check the water separator .Mahindra is a new name in the off-road industry, but is one of the largest tractor manufacturers in the world. Weve been building big. The implements were changed using a hoist to remove the implement from the tractor and then set on a cart to move the implement. We don't use any other attachments with it- it is used solely for picking ear corn. I have 4430 on a 96" double auger snowblower & in deep snow its too much for its power. They just mounted up another picker and kept picking. Too gimmicky. They picked and shelled a little corn for me too with the sheller unit. 3064. They picked and shelled a little corn for me too with the sheller unit. A-Level Paper 2: 9GE0/02. Combine and cornhead were worn out when we got them so we were reparing on a weekly basis. You can tell at long distance. Like Ohio Farmer said, it had the V6 engine and they didn't keep the stalks & husks away from the engine! Hydros started at 708 till the end, all lower numbered units were built as belt units. They picked and shelled a little corn for me too with the sheller unit. I thought it was a good buy for someone but also a very limited market for a machine like that anymore. The coop here used to be a NI dealer, and they ran one of those blowers until maybe 10 years ago. $48.68. This multi-purpose power unit had several uses, from being a corn picker to a forage harvester. I could not find how or even why the design shifted from MM to New Idea. At some point the New Idea Company took control of the design and built the Uni-Harvest system. When the New Idea ran, it had good capacity and did a real nice job. The 802c and 803c came with Cummins power at 177 and 234 hp. Have a 727 husking bed and 3-30" 725 head on it. in the Tractor Talk forum followed by comments. I learned how to be a mechanic with mine. Farmers Awarded for Innovative Ag Ideas. New Idea bought the Uni system from MM about 1965. Corn Picker Parts. New Idea 819 Uni Combine. I think the main reason they are not built today is because the farms that could use a machine of this capacity, couldnt justify the cost of owning the Uni. Dealers won't give anything for them, but if you try to buy one uff da. I currently have 2 708 uni's with 354 Perkins. Tractors, motorcycles, cars, trucks,things with engines, especially diesel engines. If it wasn't for seeing them discussed here, I wouldn't have known what it was. The Nebraska inventor and manufacturer says they're the ideal power unit for his self-propelled, 40-ft. long, 36-in. I believe Nietfeld Seed, Terning Seed, and Dahlman Seed all still use them with Dahlman having a few of them last time I was by. I sold the combine and grain head that came with it. It would out cut a 403 IHC. Farming got bigger, it became difficult to make them bigger but still work with all the tools. NEW IDEA UNI SYSTEM POWER UNITS 800 AND 802 BROCHURE. Now if John Deere would have licensed it from MM then every farm would have a new one today and it would be the greatest thing ever. While he was picking seed corn the boys were chopping corn silage with another UNI. i talked to a gentleman that knew about them,with a sheller attachment on a hill it was overloaded pulling the wagon and all, that little Z engine, in a V configuration,just couldn't hack it. I bought it to pick 30 percent ear corn to sell to a dairy farmer who milled it and bagged it at his place. I think they were one of the first to have adjustable stripper plates and snapping rolls . He taught me everything I know about over reacting on machinery. There was a toolbar available too, only one I ever saw was a neighbor had an eight row planter setup on his 702. GM 6-292, V6-401 gas, V6-478 diesel, Perkins AT6-354diesel, AC 3500 426 diesel, Cummins 5.9 turbodiesel were more common. C 3429 shipping estimate. We are into steam shows, old tractor shows, anything IH, and Masseys (the kids, not me :/). Kinda scared me. The one I bought is a variable speed belt drive 706 with a diesel Perkins. Harvesting and dairying with all and a fleet of New Idea Uni equipment. junio 16, 2022 . There are several guys on there that are into Unis and a lot of knowledgable people on pickers there. It was lost in a barn fire, and replaced with a 702. dresser-530-wheel-loader-specifications 3/3 Downloaded from avenza-dev. I have copies to sell and can get more information on that tomorrow along with some pictures. Pick 2-4 times as fast, had a swinging elevator to the side for side loading while picking, all greaseable bearing, think I has one bearing fail in 10 years of use. Most of his stuff was shipped all over I believe , choppers and eared corn machines were used locally but not much if any switching them to combines. Large harvesters with over 500hp engines can gobble up fields so fast, it is more economical to hire a custom operator. can tell more later. "description":"Discussion of new idea uni system? It didn't have a cab when we first got it, but we put one on it later. It was a good day when I traded the Uni system away. Liked by Nuzha Anam. Now if John Deere would have licensed it from MM then every farm would have a new one today and it would be the greatest thing ever. They have had it a long time. While he was picking seed corn the boys were chopping corn silage with another UNI. He had dreams of a mounted baler and snowblower, but didnt get to those before the cows left. Too bad they couldn't have got ahold of Melrose DT international engines for them. Remote work. Three row corn choppers mostly, but he does have combines and a four row picker too, and one has a nine foot three auger snow blower on it. Manufacturer,Model,Year,Price (Default) Lot # Time Remaining Manufacturer,Model,Year,Serial Number,Price Manufacturer,Model,Serial Number,Price Model,Manufacturer,Year,Price Most Recently Updated Listings Serial Number Photos First Year Manufacturer Model Location Most Recently Added The 767 chopper IMO lacked capacity, and the heads stunk, I assume the later 800 chopper and the adapter to run Deere heads would be a ok setup. I think the size of machines and farms is a big part of what killed the idea. Anyone interested in mine thinking its a 708 its in NE Wyoming,, I know I will never get back what I have in it and may someday make it into a loader for loading round bales if it never sells but would be glad to sell it. It has a Continental 6 cyl engine. Not all features of DTN / The Progressive Farmer may function as expected. The owner was a friend of my parents and he recently died of cancer. It featured a 152 hp 113 kW Cummins engine. They sold it on an auction two years ago for $700. Don't miss picking corn all that much, especially cleaning out the cribs. I would be interested, but if you list it on eBay post here or at least let me know! They were made near here. Oh fun days!!
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