This practice was continued after Western was sold to the Coleman Co. in 1984 and goes on until 1991. 2,068,966, 6,896,552 The USMC Rader Battalions of WW2 made this pattern their own and therefore famous. There were variations of this pattern that were incorporated into air crew survival kits. All of the W49s Ive seen from Western Cutlery are high carbon steel and most of them show some sign of aging after 30 plus years. Well used and somewhat pitted since I got them used. 1,097,291, 1,995,074 "Leather handled Bowie". Western Outlaw Bowie Knife by Timber Rattler It is 17 inches long and is almost 0.5 inches wide. Western Knives of Boulder Colorado made four models of the Bowie knife. While the official end of the Vietnam war is April 30 1975 The day the North Vietnamese entered the U.S. Embassy grounds. $89.17, $297.22 Corral have been captivating the imaginations of America's boys and girls for generations, as something about that lawless, pioneering time speaks to the heart of America's individualistic mentality. Original Price $200.00 Depending on the exact age of the knives, they may be very good steel. (30% off), Sale Price 1,025,862 2,135,468, 7,118,227 You could buy it for its charming looks alone, but it performs nearly as well. Vintage 14 1/2" Western W49 Bowie Knife with Sheath. Measures 15 inches long. Check out our awesome collection now. (70% off), Sale Price $134.97 That was interesting. Consignment Program Packing Your Knives. 1,183,432, 2,958,284 (50% off), Sale Price 1,912,315 Both have stacked leather handles, and 8" Marble's Ideal style blades. Many a GI bought a Western model at the Base Exchange to use in Vietnam. (See picture) Without taking the grips off there is no way to tell if it was a factory job or post purchase. Yes, that is one the first post-WW2 bowies made by Western. Check out the weather around the world with our featured, global weather cams Im thinking these must have come from their custom shop. This photo illustrates what I mean when I speak of larger pins versus smaller pins. (75% off), Sale Price 1,722,414 One must handle this knife to appreciate the quality. Value for money . Stay up to date withYour Favorite Knife Makers. I have always thought that the Western Bowie with the bigger handle bolts, thick handle, W49 guard marks and ringed sheath was post Vietnam but then came across this on ebay. Original Price $150.00 Original Price 2,958,284 You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. I have a long list of knives I kick myself for not buying. For Sale By: Sanders Knives (Sanders Knives), View all items for sale by Sanders Knives, Shipping & Handling to United States Addresses: $8.50. Turning off personalized advertising opts you out of these sales. Learn more in our Privacy Policy., Help Center, and Cookies & Similar Technologies Policy. From handmade pieces to vintage treasures ready to be loved again, Etsy is the global marketplace for unique and creative goods. This Auction is for an Authentic Western Boulder U.S.A W49 "M" Bowie Knife w/Wooden Plaque - Circa 1840.1977 was the first year that Western knives started using the alphabet, starting with the letter "A", to date code their knives. The seller might still be able to personalize your item. Check out completed auctions on the 'Bay for an idea of value. I took it, the aforementioned W49 and a Case Alamo Bowie out in the yard and started chopping on a old log of locust wood I'd had laying around for a couple of years. hardwood handles,leather sheath. I've mentioned my love for my old w49 several times here. Original Price $188.24 (39% off), Sale Price 3,722,167 Weight for the weight weirdos is 1 lb 4 ounces knife only. Original Price 7,118,227 You can see where some of the plating is peeling with age and use. that was when i was riding with a club, i'm 6'2'' and 230 lbs (wish i still was ) and nobody messed with me, great trouble detorent lol. Sold. But I believe I can give you some good advice. Set where you live, what language you speak, and the currency you use. $36.50, $121.68 The knife in the box above looks dull due to the original preservative still being on the knife after 40+ years. 1 month ago on ebay.com. 1,708,876, 1,898,817 IMHO there are two problems here. Thanks for your efforts! (30% off), Sale Price 1,183,432 $2295 SIGNED WW11 FIGHTING KNIFE. MERRY CHRISTMAS! Set where you live, what language you speak, and the currency you use. Recently Added Knives by Maker Advanced Search Sell Your Knives. SKIP. (15% off), Sale Price 4,256,897 I've never had the Bowie, but older Westerns are fantastic knives. I had a new one in the box a few years ago and let it go too cheap for 100.00 at a gun show so I could purchase something else. I used the Forester first, while I was fresh. Wow Colonel, that is very special. Original Price $31.38 (70% off), Sale Price $135.00 Can't see it in picture but blade in engraved with soldiers name and 69 - 70 Vietnam. Original Price 6,157,389 A classic made in the USA bowie that vanished once camillus went bust. Original Price 3,029,557 (45% off), Sale Price $21.96 Back in the early, and late 70's, all the guys I approached for any type of knife, especially SOG knives, said they left them in Vietnam. Here is the best that I can find as far as their tang stamping is concerned That's about all I know. Is it uncommon to come across a Bowie with that "been there and done that" look? The ones brought home were kept, or given to some relative. Skinning/Hunting/Camping knife, Western States, Boulder Colorado 2 blade pocket knife / Advertising pocket knife c.1911-1950. Original Price 7,248,225 All About Pocket Knives is a knife related resource center for buying, selling, researching, and discussing all things knives, Post Here's a thread on another forum that may help you: Chrome plating of the blade was to protect it from rust in the jungle. by zzyzzogeton Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:46 am, Post If this is the knife I am thinking of (stacked leather handle with a traditional clip style blade) a friend had one when I was younger and as I recall the knife was darn near impossible to get an edge on. As far as a real chopper goes, my W49 out performed my Spyderco/Hossum Forester in side by side testing. Pics would help to identify the knife. Camillus produced the W49 until 2006. And, especially thanks for posting it here! In addition, their handsome appearance makes them favorites for collectors. If there is a letter on the blade under the Western name it is post 1977. At first only a jobbing business, by 1920 construction and machinery purchases were underway to begin manufacture of knives. You must be logged in to contact sellers. When Coleman bought Western in 1984, they continued the practice, up through M. When Camillus bought Western from Coleman in 1991, they dropped the practice. (30% off), Sale Price 3,338,731 Yes! Of the five two were chrome plated and three were not. Send me exclusive offers, unique gift ideas, and personalized tips for shopping and selling on Etsy. Vintage Western folding pocket knife # 51 Made in the USA!!! Inspect in Game. Handle has the brass pins and rosewood handle. Found something you love but want to make it even more uniquely you? Original Price 9,359,606 I think I read somewhere that when Camillus bought the name in 1991, they moved production to the Camillus factory in New York. And you are spot-on when you allude to "gray areas." Stories of Cowboys and Indians and shoot-outs at the O.K. Email with Questionsor Offers: sandersknives@gmail.com. http://img443.No_outside_hosting.us/i/cbf7pjgcwkkgrhqyoknmez4.jpg/. This photo illustrates what I mean when I speak of larger pins versus smaller pins. It has been custom painted with knotwork. $75.30, $188.24 They sharpen up like a razor and I need to make heavy duty sheaths for them. Eventually purchased by Camillus in 1991, Western continued until Camillus expired in 2007. Top Rated Seller. This type of data sharing may be considered a sale of information under California privacy laws. Covert Knife. I believe that it provides a fairly accurate chronology of the Western W49 Bowie. Bowie Knife. 3,263,547, 4,662,315 (60% off), Sale Price $86.70 The one I have is chromed on the blade, crossguard and handle pins. Nearly a foot and a half long. I hope that there will be enough detail for me to identify the order of tang and guard stamp introduction on the W49s and other models as well. You've already signed up for some newsletters, but you haven't confirmed your address. Take full advantage of our site features by enabling JavaScript. 899,015, 2,997,044 Tim-I found out a long time ago, from returning Vietnam veterans, was that they gave away their knives to buddies or indig troops before they left. You must log in or register to reply here. My cousin (who served in Vietnam from 1968 to 1969) said he saw knives in country with chrome plating to protect them from moisture. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. You've already signed up for some newsletters, but you haven't confirmed your address. But theres always the chance that more documents are yet to surface that will clear things up. Large WW11 Fighting knife with maker mark. Bottom line if you want a western Bowie that was actully used in Vietnam you need good provinence on the knife. Sale Price $120.00 I turned the log over, picked up the W49 and finished chopping through the log in eight minutes. The marking are very important. There is another subset of the W49 knives what I term . 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Suggestions, Questions, Comments, Concerns, Alerts, Etc Member Store Tips, Tricks & Instructions, The Western Bowie / W49 Identification Thread, Re: The Western Bowie / W49 Identification Thread. That helps narrow it down! No chips or cracks in handles. This pattern is not exclusive to Western although they were the last to mass produce it. 3.3 3.3 . Not that I advocate getting a knife for the sole purpose of making it collect dust in plain view. (25% off), Sale Price 2,603,550 For further info Google: "Bill Bagwell" or "Bagwell Bowie" Re: SOF magazine article c.1987 April issue, MySpace !function(d,s,id){var js,fjs=d.getElementsByTagName(s)[0];if(!d.getElementById(id)){js=d.createElement(s);js.id=id;js.src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js";fjs.parentNode.insertBefore(js,fjs);}}(document,"script","twitter-wjs"); 3,386,453, 6,157,389 Original Price 4,437,574 All photos were 10 chops. (50% off), Sale Price 1,896,552 Original Price 6,896,552 Exterior: Minimal Wear. Forged from tough 1075 carbon steel, the Undertaker is the largest knife on our list, with a blade length of just over 10 inches, and an overall length of 15.5 inches. The straight-edge knife is fitted with a 7-inch blade and. 2,684,911, 4,881,657 (45% off), Sale Price 2,955,665 (70% off), Sale Price 2,135,468 Original Price $615.00 2,955,665, 9,852,217 I am glad that I resisted the SOF mods back in the 80's. I started looking into this subject a couple of years ago. I am aware of much of the history of the Western Bowie knife company and how the w49s were originally made for the special forces but what I cannot seem to find is wat year the model I was made. Sorry to dig up an old thread, but it seemed like the right place to add this. Many of the examples of Vietnam War vintage Bowies do not appear to have traveled any further west than the California shoreline . by zzyzzogeton Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:47 am, Post Early productions blades were made of carbon steel, later productions are constructed of a high polished stainless. I like them very much. Original Price 4,662,315 1,218,966, 2,216,502 The W47 measures 12" from tip to hilt, W45 measures 9" and the 43 or mini measures 6 1/2". i don't need to use it too much. $22.40, $28.00 Yea it is an old thread. (50% off), Sale Price 1,666,256 $184.50, $615.00 W49, W47, W45 and the W43. 1,637,685, 2,339,655 Measures 15-1/4" overall with a 10" blade. Thanks for stepping in, Sac. 1,722,414, 2,460,591 I have a Western Bowie knife that my father gave me years ago. I've been wanting a V44 pattern for years. 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Designed by Jim Bowie and fabricated first by Jesse Clifft, the almost 10-inch-long blade had a flat spine and no guard between its blade and handle. razor sharp and good in the hand. This is the Western Bowie USA knife and the scarce Vietnam era 2nd variation, this tang stamp was produced circa 1966-1968. The blade has been sharpened but with care. I bought one at a Sheriff's auction about 20 years ago. When I see a Vietnam used knife for sale that is in mint condition I usually pass. It differs from the W49 by the stainless steel used in the blade and the synthetic stag material they used for the handle. by zzyzzogeton Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:48 am, Post NOTHING MADE IN CHINA!!! Charlie, Teslleta: Here it is. Timber Rattler Western Outlaw Bowie Knife 29.99 This Timber Rattler Outlaw bowie knife is one powerful full-tang beast that every manly man needs. Western started putting the year letter on their knives in 1977 with an "A". 1,056,736, 1,243,264 3,047,783, 4,063,793 I've got several W49 bowies, the oldest dating to around the mid 60s. Please. I carry it with me on all my excursions. I also believe that the guard marked "W49's" would have been made during the 1970's but prior to 1977 when the alphabetical date code started. The W47 measures 12" from tip to hilt, W45 measures 9" and the 43 or mini measures 6 1/2".
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