I see the nose and mouth and possibly and eye, like they were trying to hide from the girls or camera and peaking behind branches creepy. Were trying to raise $5,000 for gear, security, transportation and food. I believe one fell. At least the trash element and roof structure looks like very strong evidence. And more on this most people in Latin America that permit their dog to walk freely do not keep track of where their dog goes. The circular part looks like vines to me, but the portion in the middle has potential to be a cow skull. I would expect especially on the first day for total panic to occur and multiple attempts to be made until a decision was made to save battery strength. Only a handful of the pictures retrieved from the memory card showed clear images, with most showing near-complete darkness. If the dog went with them, its likely that the girls would have taken a photo of the dog, even if the dog was in a photo accidentally. What if she was trying to get fire with the mirror and the paper? But by April 6, the girls were still missing. Is the time that photo was taken known? Thanks for sharing this info. Haha, Im assuming this is a joke, right? Perplexing to say the least. I am trying not to speculate but where is the firm incontrovertible starting point? I upscaled that image with AI correction and its 100x more clear that there is obviously a trap or makeshift roofing above her. Also there is a consistency to the timing of SOS attempts occurring two times each day +/ a few minutes of the exact same time. The hanging object and other points of interest you highlighted reminded me of this. Froon had a Canon Powershot SX270 HS which contained numerous photos, many of which were of the period of time leading up to the day of the girls disappearance. The phones remained active for nearly 10days after the pair went missing. But in numerous case there are adverse priorities that lead to incompetence in disappearance investigations. Where is YNW Melly? The government intentionally did not investigate key pieces of information: fingerprints, phone records, locals in the area, other forms of DNA. They decided to enter the jungle, but they failed to mark their entry point into the jungle with a stack of rocks or some such marking. Where they went and who they talked to in order to build up an idea about what motivated them to take that fateful walk and what information could have taken them down the other side of the divide. Even if that had happened, the skeleton would have been more intact and scratch marks would have been found on the bones. This means either the user became incapacitated and was not operating the phone or was seriously confused. The Lost Girls of Panama: The Full Story ^ From that point the trail leads over another dangerous cable bridge, and two more rickety plank swing-bridges, before reaching the Ngobe village of Alto Romero on the banks of the Culebra. Heres more info: https://imperfectplan.com/2020/12/09/research-team-update-join-us/. The girls went for a swim in a rock pool. The Panamanian government had requested that the U.S. deploy assets including Navy salvage divers and sonar to aid in the search effort and locate the wreckage in the days after the crash, but the request was denied due to a lack of assets and jurisdiction, according to a statement from the Velleman and Borries families. And there have been some other unsolved murders in the same area where the girls were. We have 5 people ending up dead, and the skulls of the girls are never found. These other comments are just people seeing what they want to see, to make things more mysterious. Again, these are just observations. One showed Kremers with what looked like concern on her face,dated around the time of the emergency calls. Use soft language and leave out gory visuals in what you write. I wouldnt give mine out to my best friend, not even to my wife. Brought to trial and prosecuted successfully: highly unlikely, less than 1%. What you are seeing is simply from the pattern of the foliage and shadows and light patterns impacting on the image. The removed comment provided nothing helpful in any respect, and was merely to get attention and reactions. The main areas of tourism in the country focus on business tourism, beaches, health and trade. Its worth mentioning how the police found out that someone tried unlocking Kris Kremers phone, but failed to do so. by Chris | Jan 29, 2020 | Crime Abroad, Kris Kremers. After a second look, I found that the Yahoo article specifically states that it was 17 foreigners belonging to another sect, but Yahoo was somewhat unclear Foreign can have a lot of meanings in this context. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_JheETl6Obg. There is very convincing evidence gathered by Juan Perea over the years on this case. He even found pictures of the suspect and a local model wearing Kriss blue shirt right after the disappearance. There was enough evidence in this investigation to solve the case and possibly find Kris and Lisanne while they were alive. I posted a link at Koude Kas of example of Monkeys playing with phones because they were entranced by the flash. The white and red object on the left looks slightly like a cows head and what I took to be Kriss tousled hair on the left of her head now looks like the thumb and fore finger of her left hand pointing to the inside of the hut. Thanks for any information you can provide. (From our perspective to the right of her directly in front of her feet about waist high). My question is: Who has the ability to manipulate both the cameras internal storage database and the photos? It was probably done by the perpetrators in order to collect the reward money. The Lost Girls of Panama: The Full Story. I read extensively about this case and when I saw the above pic, I got the most eerie feeling. But dogs in Latin America tend to roam around and go wherever they want theyre very free here. Yes theres a man to her left crouched down wearing beige/ beige/ brown. Regarding the existing photos its a big mess. And look at it from this point of view. The plane was located with the help of Bruce's Legacy, as well as a local family whose boats were used in the mission, Lewitinn said. Hello and thank you for doing such a thorough research. Or maybe the girls were using the flash as light in the dark. Such a tragedy. I have watched so much about this case and this is the first time I have heard that the parents withheld photos. And the police know who it is, but will not say anything. But I still had that curiosity. This is significant because image 508 was the last photograph of them where they werent in any trouble. I wanted to her a benefit of the doubt before I came across this article, yes she did mention red and black feathers on a piece of wood and turquoise pendant and a white mask. It holds a bad energy. Sorry for the inconvenience and thank you for your interest in the case. Curious if people have found these specific locations and done some extensive testing and exploring in those and surrounding areas? Im very curious Ive heard rumors but have never found verified information. Does anyone know if the dog they brought with them is in any photos from the hike? He has a whole series of You Tube videos (over 50) that were made that show that the pictures were manipulated and he names the suspect. Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. We are dealing with history here. Is there somebody behind the insignia? Same goes for the hair photo, that people think might be a portion of a previous shot. I noticed that youve submitted two more links in another newer comment. Nothing more sinister than that. I think the left arm is visible behind her hanging down. Looking carefully at her forehead you can see theres only the shade from a pole but her face is shaded. In the picture of her in the Cave? You would write something out on notepad or at least be texting everyone in your address book hoping one got through saying Help. I dont know what Chris means by this, but at first I thought it was a wooden post sticking up from the ground and painted white at the top. Of course, there are always exceptions. But so much of this search/investigation was poorly executed. It is almost as if they are deliberately not to tell anything rather than the much speculated something. JW, I agree with you totally, thanks for your intelligent remarks! Ive met a few people that have maintained their pet in the same way as we do in the USA. Easily done, I have done that myself several times. Im not sure if people can really talk with animals but i sure would try and see by calling on a few and get their opinion. According to Wisconsin Sen. Tammy Baldwin's office, the U.S. Coast Guard provided Panamanian authorities with technical modeling to support the search for the aircraft. There is no database of how many people go missing in national parks every year but the National Parks Service has at least 29 cold cases of people who have gone missing and have yet to be found, with the oldest case dating back to 1958.. Shes describing the things youve noticed on the pic!!!! Of course these generalities and cultural traits do not apply to everyone here. Other than the dog, the young women went on their hike alone, only asking for directions from a local innkeeper, who advised them to take a taxi back to town. Again NO SIGNAL! When the girls were vacationing in South Panama it shows a photo of them in the ocean, and behind them in the ocean is a fat white man seemingly staring at them. Even at this point, I still think theres a lot that can be achieved from gathering information and further evaluating the existing evidence. The police, the media attention, the suspicions on him. The mystery remains unsolved to this day, and there is still little certainty around the tragic deaths of the two Dutch students. Her right hand is clearly raised in front of her shading her face from the sunlight. Sheer incompetence. You need to be a Photoshop wizard of substantial level to even attempt this and it would take absolute ages. Hi Abrahm, thank you for your comment. They had more than enough evidence and leads to solve the case but they ignored so much of the evidence. I feel that unless they do or unless further forensic work has shown something more then, no matter what the experts in survival say, it is still only speculation and not proof. . Trust me, I prefer to take the easiest explanation too. This whole incident is the stuff of horror movies and very chilling, even if it was an accident. Kris was not happy with the situation and was just going along and not looking too cheerful in the pictures. Once there, the families and detectives began a massive search. The grimace on Kris face is because she is in pain. I think someone took them there. After finding the women's phones, authorities now had alead. My husband is a mountain climber and when hes out, the mountain rescue flys multiple times a day because hikers overestimate their abilities in the german Alps, not anywhere in the jungle. Maybe its just pareidolia, but i think its a manmade object. The arbitrary pictures looked focused as if steady hands took the shots, suggesting they were intentional. Ive considered a number of possibilities on the pictures. Loads of speculations as to why they didnt leave messages to their families. It happens often and I cant even imagine how horrible it was. Hi JW, yes I agree with you about many things. It does not make sense to me. Hi Marie, Theres no evidence that points to the dog being with them. Political corruption runs rampant, depending on the community, which has a cascading effect on law enforcement and local crime. Dogs are very independent here. I cant explain the calls or photos or intact skin that was found. I dont know if this photo is before or after a photo where Kris appears to have mud on her legs and on her arm. Like the taxidriver and the two local boys. And her shirt is pushed up. This was cleverly planned, and the murderer(s) have done this before. More info here. Not getting any fingerprints looks suspect. I think that if the parents had withheld important photographs,showing that the circumstances pointed to natural causes,they would have disclosed that theory before now, surely,if for no other reason,than to prevent further speculation about the girls disappearance. This! Lisanne believes her dead. The remains of two American women who went missing after their plane crashed off the coast of Panama a month ago have been . Please remember to be considerate of the two girls that lost their lives and their families. And I think that sunlight she is trying t avoid also is the reason for her facial expression. Most people in Panama dont have the expertise, nor equipment to handle these sophisticated tasks. This trip to Panama was a major life experience for Kris and Lisanne. https://photos.app.goo.gl/nVA1PDjjeVwULeo66. If so then those could tell some information. Why IMG_0509 is missing, which could be a crucial piece of evidence, is an enigma. Government corruption perpetuates the proliferation of gang activity. The 29-year-old from Stockport vanished on 14 August near a beauty spot in Panama. No Chris, I assure you, police investigations are routinely botched like this in the third world. I agree that her hands look like they are over head. You highlight the importance of fastidiousness in the articles that I reference. When the Canon Powershot was recovered by Dutch authorites, there was a conspicuous missing file: IMG_0509. Therefore we cannot conclude that a dog was even with them. But others have suggested the chilling photos might have been taken by someone else after killing the girls. He has collected much that is out there but still the majority is second hand and we have no information as to the voracity. "Those flash floods made staging scenes or strategically placing items impossible.". This is because people who knew the area were able to recognize that the nighttime photos were likely taken at Caldera springs, more than 20 miles from the area the girls allegedly went missing at. There are over 30 fingerprints on the blue backpack which belongs to one of the girls, but they dont want to investigate the fingerprints. Not to mention her hair was down in the photos at the beginning of the hike and now they appear to be in at least two pony tails where devil horns would be. Also important is who they met because two tall and very attractive new arrivals would certainly get all the boys tongues wagging. This leads me to believe that they were followed by one or more men who made their presence known around that time. That is EXACTLY what it looks like to me! Hi Chris thanks for the link to the book. I think this picture of Kris is a picture of her circling around looking for where they entered the jungle. So I see men in the cave. Feel free to comment again or send me an email. Oy vey I didnt catch this before, but seeing it now it sort of made my eyes water a bit. In a mind-blowing theory, Dick Steffens, a former detective in Amsterdam, claimed Kris could still be alive after she was trafficked into the sex trade by a kidnapper roaming in the jungle. Panamas government is stuck in a desperate position. And one of the images chillingly showed the back of Kris' head with what some sleuthes believe is blood leaking from her temple. 3. At 2:50 they start walking up to what I believe is the location in this photograph, Not a cave but an old bridge you can see the railing and bridge post and there is a weird shadow to the left behind the railing. Here is what I see: Im not sure if Ive found something new here, but I havent found anyone else discussing these details online. I just realized Blue, the guide dog who often walks hikers up the trail, whose return home without the girls alerted locals they were missing, IS NOT IN ANY OF L & K pictures. My first thought and instincts on the object you believe to be circular on the left is a cow skull and the fact its there is very strange indeed. I think Juan is actively trying to protect this human trafficking agency. They took the dog with them on the walk and it came back the next morning but they didnt there had to have been some clues maybe like how far could the dog have gone and still find its way back home? The case needs solid evidence and/or solid witnesses coming forward. I would not pay much attention to what she has to say as it sounds like she wrote this book to try to justify/clear herself from all the criticism she garnered through this experience: Cops quizzed locals, tour guides and other hikers, but only the photos and call logs provided a slither of evidence as to what had happened. Its a sect of foreign Christians that set up in the area and murdered 6 people FROM one of the local tribes. So they made it out of there, The picture with her standing at cave entrance is also the same place she was standing in dark way off in background. Jeroen Jumulet / Stringer / AFP / Getty Images, Blue returned from the hike unaccompanied. Why no video diary? For what reason? The red and black objects look like bolt cutters or tree cutter. He goes down some intriguing avenues which while I may not agree with either the direction or point have value because they stimulate me to think. They got lost and succumbed to the wild. 679215 Registered office: 1 London Bridge Street, London, SE1 9GF. Many hikers from all over the world disappear, fall, or suffer other fatal accidents while traveling - this could've happened to these women as well. Hi Chris, i heard of this case a few months ago and i read many articles about it. Image 505 is actually the last image before the night photos. In the leaked images some 90% of the original information is irretrievably lost trying to read anything into any of the remaining spots and splotches is fools errand. All facts are not available in this case. I know that in previous photos there are trenches like this one naturally occurring throughout the jungle due to erosion, but this one doesnt appear to be from that. I know that their camera and mobile phone photos have been analyzed a thousand times by various people online but I also know that many people arent able to enhance the brightness, contrast, exposure and saturation in a professional graphics program. But after they waved goodbye to the local family for a mid-morning walk on April 1, 2014, they were never seen alive again. The main/central support bar (branch?) It would also be useful to know if the metatarsal bones of Lisannes foot had showed any signs of healing. Hi Chris, Very interested in your website! The remains of two American women who went missing after their plane crashed off the coast of Panama a month ago have been recovered, officials said. Theyve been promised much if they deliver Feliciano hard evidence of the girls death. I agree with you. The backpack being found with all its contents including money and not even dirty let alone wet after weeks of constant rain-found a day after the area was checked. Right above it. By April 6, 2014, theparents of both women grew frantic andflew to Panama with detectives from the Netherlands. How Many Kids Does Linkin Park Have? Why not just kill them and leave it be? I think that this is a photoshopped image made by cutting out a picture of Kris and pasting it onto a background to give the false impression that Kris and Lisanne went on the Pianista Trail. I think the last three photos of Kris show a definite change in mood. Dutch tourists in Panama Two Dutch tourists Kris Lemers, 21, and Lisanne Froon, 22 disappeared while out on a hike in Panama in April 2004. I find it odd that the young American girl was murdered not long after this not far away as with the taxi driver who was found depended likely murdered. Patients often tell our staff about finding the corpses of people who have suffered fatal falls or drowned in swollen rivers. The left-side of her head is not hair or her hand, but just the foliage in the background. I think that she has her hand to her ear,she looks like she is trying to hear what someone is saying,and also,the light is in her eyes;.It looks like she has twisted herself around in doing so. View our online Press Pack. Apparently this villager travelled abroad, adopted extremist Christian views, returned home and started a cult in his own village which resulted in human sacrifices of other locals. Basically, theres a lot of government corruption and poverty as a result. He wants the gringos to go away and leave him in peace. The last photo of Kris on the rocks doesnt appear to have any evidentiary value to me. Yes! To this day, the disappearance and tragic deaths of Kris and Lisanne remains a harrowing mystery. Is there a particular name, symbol or color associated with the gang? After any incident the first 24 hours are critical and it seems all that time was lost. Bringing justice to assailants that harm tourists is very often not a top priority, and it shows through the number of botched investigations. Maybe one girl regained consciousness at night and took the pictures. ^ But the galvanized sign marking the terminus of the Pianista isnt really the end of the trail. In fact, theres a very obvious, albeit mud-choked, passage that goes down the other side of the crestonly to intersect with an entire web of paths constructed and used primarily by members of the indigenous Ngobe tribe. I also think that we are looking at man-made roof structure, but its not the last photo, right? Its interesting numerous people have contacted me anonymously and informed me that there are already multiple existing research teams that are investigating this case privately. As the search was starting to wind up, a local woman handed in a blue backpack, claiming she found it in a rice paddy along the banks of the river. All very different from the happy silly girlie pictures at the beginning. The insignia looks more like a darkish skinned face peering through a narrow window and observing the girls from behind some sort of screen. If you find more info about this, please feel free to share it. Thank you for reading. I think that this is definitely a murder, because of the rucksack. Theres no telling how many people touched it before the police got it.
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